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Chazcoral Monday, June 30, 2008
@ 7:03 PM
former JW W is for Why
Dear Former, We understand exactly what you are talking about. We have gone through this as well. If you would like to discuss more with my wife and/or myself you may contact us at Chazcoral2@hotmail.com.

former JW Saturday, June 28, 2008
@ 10:14 PM
J is for Joke....W is for Why
I was raised a Jehovah's Witness. From day one, that was all I knew. It has to be the most difficult to get over when you're naive...what choice did I have? I'm still searching for ways to deal with my ghosts, but it will take more than therapy to cope with this. I walked away when I was 16. It's been 7 years now, and it still haunts me. I was never molested as far as I remember. But I'm here to reach out to anyone who is suffering from this. I strongly disagree with everything Jehovah's Witnesses stand for. It makes me sick to my stomach that JW's actually believe they know the "Truth". The truth is...they are so brainwashed and programmed that they don't know any better. I still to this day have to watch my entire family's passions and joys disintegrate. My mom used to be happy once. My dad used to have hobbies. My brother used to talk to me. And my sister, she used to stand with me. Now I've lost her too. I'm the black sheep of my family, and I'm proud. I suppose a lot of religions and cults put stress on the family. But this is the only one I know that tears families apart. This is the only cult I know that has changed their rules and policies over 140 times, in result losing thousands of lives. My heart goes out to each person that is suffering from this false advertisement of a religion. There's no such thing as one religion. There's only one creator, one result, and a population that's just as naive as I used to be. Silent lambs responce.......... If you would like to talk you can e-mail info@silentlambs.org.

KLS Saturday, June 28, 2008
@ 8:50 PM
What a crock
What the heck is up with us victims getting less than a million each from our lawsuit but some woman cries harrasment from her boss and gets $17 mil for ALMOST getting touched!?!?!?!? And it happens all the time. Either we had a piece of crap attorney or they have a good one. You decide. *** Also, the Watchtower has just changed their donations to a new entity - "Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses." Just another attempt to hide the real worth of the company from any other lawsuits.

Wednesday, June 25, 2008
@ 12:57 PM
November Watchtower
Hi, what is the November issue of the Watchtower going to be about? I hope that the 'rank and file' will recognize the greed in the organization, since it sounds as if this greed is going to be staring JWs right in their faces! Maybe JWs see the WTBTS through a golden haze. It's really just an illusion. I don't know what the November issue is about, but if it is going to expose any greed I hope Jehovah's Witnesses will see through the WTBTS's smoke and mirrors act. Greed is probably at the bottom of the pedophilia issue. Can't let the horrendous pedophile issue be exposed and reported to the appropriate authorities, because when you get down to it, there is no money in that! The more the 'rank and file' learn about the pedophiles and the extreme severity of the pedophile problem, the less money goes to the WTBTS. People will just see this organization for what it really is. A huge book publishing company, and what does it care about these innocent, vulnerable children if they are going to stand in the way of the Watchtower Society's profits!

anonymous friends Saturday, June 21, 2008
@ 6:22 PM
o. a.
o. a. that attends r.p.i in troy, ny, usa is a suspected pedophile. he was born in october of 1968 and wears glasses. he appears and attempts to look younger than is. he likes to wear disguises and utilize alias. mostly hispanic and caucasian aliases. he comes from a family where he was molested by father, brothers, and neighbors. he has attempted to make contact with numerous children. he harbors ill feelings and resentment towards kids based on his upbringing. his father is a child rapist of his own flesh and blood. the son attempts to pass as normal and pretends to date real women that are gullible and unsuspecting. it is a fake front. he is a danger and menace to society and is now attempting to teach children in foreign countries where he cannot be caught with underage children--most especially toddlers and grade school kids. he is a danger. he attempts to pass off as innocent victim of others attempts to assault. he was not abused at eight. he started to sexually manipulate and abuse other boys especially since. girls are more of a sick curiosity to his obsession and penchant for innocence. he is sick. as is his father. of nj. the family hails from orlando florida. sisters and brothers all screwed up. he had intercourse with a brother who committed suicide. another brother that is convicted of sexually touching his own children. it is a disease..... avoid at all costs. he pretends to believe in religion and claims being a devout ex jehovahs witness. they too knew of his sickness. he made contact with children there as well. it is still discussed. his mother is an enabler. his sickness and hatred towards women come from her mental deficiencies. confirmed with his siblings and with his sister. nieces and nephews are attracted to his father because they think money will erase what happens. ticking time bomb. do not hire and do not allow near your loved ones. http://www.silentlambs.org/ElderprotectPedophile.htm

George Saturday, June 21, 2008
@ 2:14 PM
Response.
It seems like this site wants to expand its wings and discuss other topics as well. Such as: "Murrieta Man Questioned In Murder of His Mrs" or "Francis Proulx charged with murder". These both are extreme cases not involving child pedophilia. However, both cases are big problems. Big problems that can be prevented, if they are treated earlier. Pedophilia and murder are both condemned in the Bible. Murder is obviously wrong. Child pedophilia is fornication, unreasonableness, covetousness all wrapped in one. The Watchtower keeping a file of all these pedophiles is extremely egregious. Definately not a christian thing to do. The Bible tells us to avoid such people. The Murrieta man had other issues than killing his wife. It seems the insurance policy of $1 million dollars was definately in his heart. The greed of this man took over his power of reason. The lifestyle that he wanted to maintain was more important than his wife. The Watchtower's lifestyle is one of "living with the Joneses". These men want what the Watchtower has...Money. Personally, I cannot wait for the November issue of the Watchtower and see what these greedy men want more of.

Stephanie Wednesday, June 18, 2008
@ 12:16 PM
Sad state of affairs
I used to be a Jehovah's Witness. I don't ever recall being sexually abused but my heart goes out to those who have been. I am congratulating you for having the strength and insight and spirit to speak out against this subject. Deciet has no place with truth.

SD Tuesday, June 17, 2008
@ 4:57 PM
God bless you
for making a place that is safe for children! You are reaching others for Christ! May God continue to bless you all! In Christ, sd

Tuesday, June 17, 2008
@ 2:35 PM
To Socrates and all
Yes, there are other former JW sites to which people can turn to discuss issues other than pedophilia. Silentlambs is principally a site for discussing the pedophile issue, and I don't want to see anyone scared away from coming here because maybe some people may be coming on too strong about other issues. This is a wonderful site! It is hard at times not to touch on other issues with the WTBTS due to its general orneriness about so many things. But, I know we need to try to stick to the horrendous pedophilia problem and be here for the victims to comfort them and give them support. So, please, people, keep coming, and consider Silentlambs your haven! We are here for you to offer solace and friendship. We care. You mean a lot to us. Keep coming back.

man711 Monday, June 16, 2008
@ 2:30 PM

"When a religion does wrong on American soil, the religion should be in jeopardy of losing its religious status. " Gee I think all of them fall into that category

Monday, June 16, 2008
@ 2:18 PM
To Earl
Hi, I really picked up on a word that you used. Intiution. It jumped out at me. I agree that people should not ignore their intuition. My mother used to refer to it as her antennae being up. It's like radar. You can pick up on things and just know intuitively whether something rings true or not. So many JWs let their minds become like sponges that absorb everything the WTBTS tells them, and they believe it all! But, who wants a sponge for a brain? I really think one can sense when something is awry, and yes, I truly believe there is much that is awry with the Jehovah's Witnesses' 'religion'. You just have to go with your "gut feelings" (pardon the expression :-)) sometimes.

Socartes Sunday, June 15, 2008
@ 11:32 PM
No one should be silenced,
Guys, you are right, I agree that people need to talk about their abuse, they need to get it out in the open and talk about it, I was one, and I needed to talk about it. But we need to keep in mind that there are people here who are active witnesses on their way out, but if they see us jw bashing or preaching, then we might scare them off. When I can to this site the first time, had I seen someone trying to convert people to their beliefs or bashing jws then I would not have felt safe enough to stay on the site. I came here to discuss my abuse issues, when I felt like I wanted to hear other peoples beliefs about religious doctrine, then I went to some of the many other sites out there. I eventually stopped going to them because I didn’t appreciate the debates and hateful attitudes, so I came back hear and found that from time to time we start heading in that direction here as well. I’m just saying that we need to consider that. I'm not saying that anyone should be silenced. People come here not to be converted but to hear other people’s stories about abuse, so they know they’re not alone.

Earl Sunday, June 15, 2008
@ 10:33 AM
George and all
Good points, as many come here with abuse issues I personally feel no one should be silenced who shares their suffering,thoughts and experience. After all that is what the WT is all about, silencing the members. It's all abuse and it starts at the basis of their dogmatism. The child or parent has been taught to ignore their God given intuition and believe that the elders are infallible and chosen by God himself. After such indoctrinations it is easy to abuse the people, including sexual abuse and even allows the mom to give up her role as main protector of her children which even a animal would not do to their young. I believe unless and until someone can see the WTorg. is wrong on so many levels that they will not change and join us in our fight to save the poor helpless victims. In every jw heart of hearts they know that what the Org. has taught them very often is contrary to the Bible message that they so often study, they might not discuss their feelings with another soul out of fear of rejection but sooner or later they end up at a cross road where they are challenged to do the right thing. It is other people that share their beliefs and experiences that often encourage people to change. We never know how we may affect others but I am convinced it is our honesty and sincerity that draws others to finally realise that maybe there is real truth out there and helps one come out of isolation and shame, maybe for the first time in their life's and makes them comfortable enough to join mankind and really make a difference by helping the abused instead of waiting on God for divine intervention. This waiting thing is another teaching that has allowed all forms of abuse and it needs to be talked about as it it at the center of jw beliefs and allows them to have a pacifistic attitude about doing their part in stopping abuse. Does anyone think Jesus would have viewed mass suffering/abuse and said " You all just sit back and watch your kids being abused as I will take care of it when I return" This is insanity and that is why we must discuss doctrine as it is false doctrine that allows the abuse of the Silent Lambs. Blessing to all and keep up the vital work.

George Saturday, June 14, 2008
@ 10:31 AM
Thoughts
I disagree with Socrates comments below. I feel that the reason that the Watchtower Society has big problems (child pedophilia, etc.) is because they do not deal with the smaller issues involving themselves. Small problems become larger problems. I find that most elders in the congregation ABUSE their members on things that they feel empowered to do further abuse (child abuse). I found that a severe SLANDER case involved myself 800 miles south of where I am currently living. I feel people who have been wronged by the Watchtower Society need to have their thoughts expressed in a forum. This will show the world what the Watchtower society is like as a whole, not just one area. Please do not silence our thoughts.

Saturday, June 14, 2008
@ 10:23 AM
Post Question
I posted on the Guestbook, June 12, and it never appeared here. Can someone explain? Moderator responce........................ No message was intentianlly left off. But there was one day that we could not post, therefore it may have been late getting posted. If it has still not been posted please send it again.

Korey Thursday, June 12, 2008
@ 7:53 PM
They are so imperfect
Is it any surprise that the Jehovah's Witnesses are involved in a pedophile circus? Do we need a sign from above to know that these people are not practicing what the Bible preaches? Is it alright for a JW lady who dresses like a slut to knock on your door? Does religious freedom supercedes the other Bill of Rights? When a religion does wrong on American soil, the religion should be in jeopardy of losing its religious status. That is what should happen.

Wednesday, June 11, 2008
@ 1:26 PM
To Socrates and RF
Hello. I just cannot comprehend how parents could shun their own children for opening up to them about their abuse! Even if they open up about as adults and still are treated like dirt for doing so. I don't get it. Not one iota. It's crazy. Where are these parents' heads? More importantly, where are their HEARTS? It's baffling to the nth degree! I am so sorry to all victims whose very own parents who children should be able to count on above all other people don't show them sympathy, empathy, and compassion! It's nuts! So, Socrates, I am so sorry about the way your own mother responded to you when you told her what happened to you all those years ago! And, to think that you told her after you'd reached adulthood. It seems as if that would have added credibility to what you told her. I am very sorry about her reaction to you and what you told her! RF, I am proud of you, too, for telling your parents what happened to you when you were a little girl! I am happy about the way your parents took care of the situation. That's the way parents should act, the way they should be. I wish all children were brave enough to open up to their parents about their abuse. It is always best to be truthful. Honesty pays out in the end. Your parents protected you. I wish all the parents were as protective as yours were!

Wednesday, June 11, 2008
@ 12:55 PM
To Herbert
Hi, Herbert, I agree that the main purpose of this site is about pedophilia and that we should be careful to stay on track. Yet sometimes avoiding dogma and doctrinal issues is very difficult, because sometimes they are enmeshed with the pedophile issue. I agree with everyone who says there needs to be balance on this site. Sometimes to have that balance it is necessary to touch on JW dogma, etc. The pedophile issue is definitely the main thing to focus on, but at times, in order to have balance, people need to bring in other issues with the WTBTS. Nobody should feel intimidated by this organization for any reason. I think that is an important thing to keep in mind. Fear is a great controller and manipulator. No one should be in fear of the WTBTS. It's not God, nor does it represent God. Jesus Christ represents God. Nobody else. No one should be afraid to report child abuse to the police. Indeed it is their duty to report it to the police. It is their responsibility to do so.

Socrates Tuesday, June 10, 2008
@ 9:20 PM
RF victims protect abusers
This is a very interesting conversation, I often wonder about this very issue. My wife and I are helping a woman right now who is in the process of divorcing her abusive husband. But the entire time she has been completely concerned with protecting his reputation. My sister has a daughter who I think is possibly abused by her father but she lives in denial thinking first that her daughter would say something and second that her abusive ex would never hurt their daughter. Why do people protect predators? I think because to them it means that it was their fault because they didn’t see it coming. I was molested by a witness when I was eight years old. He would babysit us, while I was there he would tell my brother and sister that I was being bad so he could take me in the other room and have his way with me. When mom arrived to pick me up she saw that I had been crying, and took his word that I had been misbehaving so within minutes of being molested, I got yelled at and punished by my mother. Needless to say I was afraid to tell her what really happened. This happened multiple times with the same story but, although she had experienced abuse herself growing up, she could not allow herself to believe that it could ever happen to her children. I told her about it last year and she automatically took a defensive and doubtful stand. So I think that is why because parents and/or victims can’t stand to think that they somehow allowed it to happen. I’m so proud for you RF that your parents stood for you, and for your courage in telling them. You are right the truth is always better. I waited 29 years to say anything about it. I hid it away and my entire life suffered anxiety attacks, nightmares, insomnia, seizures, and finally lost my parents and sister by talking about what happened, and standing on behalf of other victims of witness abuse. But my life is now so much better. I’ve still not completely healed but still working hard at it with my wonderful supportive and helpful wife.

RF Tuesday, June 10, 2008
@ 9:28 AM
Enjoyed the comment to my comment
In hearing the women tell me their abuse, some are told after they grow up about it because they were to young. They are angry when told because they know how they were treated coldly by their mom's had do do with the abuse. Where dad's were no oneone seems to know if they knew most of the time. MAYBE THEIR MOTHER'S WERE ABUSED AND BECAME NUMB. The whole situation is not normal. I had parent's that did not get along , they did not agree on anything, except they were normal concerning me. When I was 5 I went futher from the house then I was suppose to with 2 boys 7, 12 yrs. old. I sensed I was in danger and started to run, they tore my strap off of a sunsuit, but I out ran them. I hid the suit and got in bed. I dreaded telling my parents I was out of the yard and what happen, but I recognized truth was better and when ask what happen told my mother. She talked to my father . The next day they told me not to worry my father had run the family off that night . They told me I was safe from future harm, did not scold me for being with the boy's or going out of the yard. They both gave assurances and we never talked about it again. I always valued how they were so protective of me. Abuse victims don't usually have this protection. I feared telling them but I feared it happening again more. Facing fear is hard but it brings a life time of relief.

Moderator Monday, June 9, 2008
@ 9:23 PM
To Canada, Still a Witness for Now
Canada, If you would like further guidence regarding the situation with your son, you can email. info@silentlambs.org.

Socrates Monday, June 9, 2008
@ 6:32 PM
To Australia
I understand how you feel when you say that you have no spiritual home. I find happiness in knowing that no one can tell me what I have to do spiritually. You have time to figure that out on your own, without being told how you have to do it. It is a personal relationship like that with a wife or husband no one can tell you who you have to love.

Socrates Monday, June 9, 2008
@ 6:25 PM
To Canada
Canada By all means you should report it. I doubt that anything could be done legelly in regards to your son's case after so many years, but there is a child out there somewhere who could be this man's victim in the future if nothing is said about it.

Monday, June 9, 2008
@ 1:41 PM
To RF
Hello, RF. Wow, your comments sure were on the mark! How could anyone blame a four-year old child for their own abuse? Huh?! Especially the parents of this child. And why is it that women are often so protective of their and/ or their children's abusers? That's crazy! Their thinking and ability is so totally confused and messed up. Here they are worried about destroying the "wonderful" lives of the abusers, but not taking care of their own lives. These women and their children deserve wonderful lives!! They need to speak up! Turning all their pain and despair inward can destroy them, ruin their lives. And all because they are so concerned about the lives of their or their children's abusers! The abusers need to face the consequences of their actions. I agree. "SPEAKING UP IS HEALING!" That not speaking up is allowing a cancer to grow and grow until it is too late. Yes, children are adorable, loveable, and oh, so precious! To blame the children or ignore what has happened to them is like going into numb denial. How can anyone do that to their own children?! How can someone prefer to save the lives of the abusers rather than the lives of their children? And yet claim to love and cherish their children? I am so glad that women feel they can confide in you! They need to confide in someone! Someone who will help them see sense, help them with their thinking their reasoning and perception of things! Thank you for being there for these women!! They have been spiritually poisoned. You are helping them get the poison, the toxins out of their sytems. Please keep it up!

Monday, June 9, 2008
@ 1:17 PM
To Australia
Hi. Please keep coming to Silentlambs. It will give you comfort and solace, and that will help you stay strong. You will find much support here and friends who care deeply about you! Speaking only for myself, as that is all I can do, I don't have a "religious" home. I don't have a church that I go to. However, (again, this is strictly speaking for myself) I do feel that I have a spiritual home in Jesus Christ himself. I remember JWs who would ask where else could they go if they were to leave the organization, when all along it was truly a matter of to WHOM they would go, so there IS someplace for hurting and confused JWs and victims to turn to. Anyway, I know this is a very highly personal issue for everyone. I just wanted to pass along what has helped me. No, I don't have a religious 'home', but I do have a spiritual investment in Jesus Christ our Savior. The Jehovah's Witnesses don't have a monopoly in spirituality. I want to reiterate that this is how I personally see things from my perspective. Everyone has their own personal perception of things. But, in the case of children being abused (in any way), I don't think that people should feel an obligation to be loyal to, to trust in an 'organization' that claims to be the channel between God and humankind. Jesus is that channel. Look what He did for us. I dearly hope that I have not offended or stepped on anyone's toes here. Australia, what happened to your son was nothing short of evil. Wicked. You do not owe your allegiance to a so-called religion that has hurt your son and you. Far, far, far from it. Please, please keep coming back to Silentlambs to help you have your inner strength. I hope your son is doing well.

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