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| Chazcoral |
Monday, June 30, 2008 @ 7:03 PM |
former JW W is for Why Dear Former,
We understand exactly what you are talking about. We have
gone through this as well. If you would like to discuss
more with my wife and/or myself you may contact us at
Chazcoral2@hotmail.com. |
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| former JW |
Saturday, June 28, 2008 @ 10:14 PM |
J is for Joke....W is for Why I was raised a Jehovah's Witness. From day one, that was
all I knew. It has to be the most difficult to get over
when you're naive...what choice did I have? I'm still
searching for ways to deal with my ghosts, but it will
take more than therapy to cope with this. I walked away
when I was 16. It's been 7 years now, and it still haunts
me. I was never molested as far as I remember. But I'm
here to reach out to anyone who is suffering from this. I
strongly disagree with everything Jehovah's Witnesses
stand for. It makes me sick to my stomach that JW's
actually believe they know the "Truth". The truth
is...they are so brainwashed and programmed that they
don't know any better. I still to this day have to watch
my entire family's passions and joys disintegrate. My mom
used to be happy once. My dad used to have hobbies. My
brother used to talk to me. And my sister, she used to
stand with me. Now I've lost her too. I'm the black
sheep of my family, and I'm proud. I suppose a lot of
religions and cults put stress on the family. But this is
the only one I know that tears families apart. This is
the only cult I know that has changed their rules and
policies over 140 times, in result losing thousands of
lives. My heart goes out to each person that is suffering
from this false advertisement of a religion.
There's no such thing as one religion. There's only one
creator, one result, and a population that's just as naive
as I used to be.
Silent lambs responce..........
If you would like to talk you can e-mail
info@silentlambs.org.
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| KLS |
Saturday, June 28, 2008 @ 8:50 PM |
What a crock What the heck is up with us victims getting less than a
million each from our lawsuit but some woman cries
harrasment from her boss and gets $17 mil for ALMOST
getting touched!?!?!?!? And it happens all the time.
Either
we had a piece of crap attorney or they have a good one.
You decide. *** Also, the Watchtower has just changed
their
donations to a new entity - "Christian Congregation of
Jehovah's Witnesses." Just another attempt to hide the
real worth of the company from any other lawsuits. |
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Wednesday, June 25, 2008 @ 12:57 PM |
November Watchtower Hi, what is the November issue of the Watchtower
going
to be about? I hope that the 'rank and file' will
recognize the greed in the organization, since it sounds
as
if this greed is going to be staring JWs right in their
faces! Maybe JWs see the WTBTS through a golden haze.
It's really just an illusion. I don't know what the
November issue is about, but if it is going to expose any
greed I hope Jehovah's Witnesses will see through the
WTBTS's smoke and mirrors act. Greed is probably at the
bottom of the pedophilia issue. Can't let the horrendous
pedophile issue be exposed and reported to the appropriate
authorities, because when you get down to it, there is no
money in that! The more the 'rank and file' learn about
the pedophiles and the extreme severity of the pedophile
problem, the less money goes to the WTBTS. People will
just see this organization for what it really is. A huge
book publishing company, and what does it care about these
innocent, vulnerable children if they are going to stand
in
the way of the Watchtower Society's profits! |
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| anonymous friends |
Saturday, June 21, 2008 @ 6:22 PM |
o. a. o. a. that attends r.p.i in troy, ny, usa
is a suspected pedophile. he was born in october of 1968
and wears glasses. he appears and attempts to look
younger than is. he likes to wear disguises and utilize
alias. mostly hispanic and caucasian aliases. he comes
from a family where he was molested by father, brothers,
and neighbors. he has attempted to make contact with
numerous children. he harbors ill feelings and resentment
towards kids based on his upbringing. his father is a
child rapist of his own flesh and blood. the son attempts
to pass as normal and pretends to date real women that are
gullible and unsuspecting. it is a fake front. he is a
danger and menace to society and is now attempting to
teach children in foreign countries where he cannot be
caught with underage children--most especially toddlers
and grade school kids. he is a danger. he attempts to
pass off as innocent victim of others attempts to
assault. he was not abused at eight. he started to
sexually manipulate and abuse other boys especially
since. girls are more of a sick curiosity to his
obsession and penchant for innocence. he is sick. as is
his father. of nj. the family hails
from orlando florida. sisters and brothers all screwed
up. he had intercourse with a brother who committed
suicide. another brother that is convicted of sexually
touching his own children. it is a disease..... avoid at
all costs. he
pretends to believe in religion and claims being a devout
ex jehovahs witness. they too knew of his sickness. he
made contact with children there as well. it is still
discussed. his mother is an enabler. his sickness and
hatred towards women come from her mental deficiencies.
confirmed with his siblings and with his sister. nieces
and nephews are attracted to his father because they think
money will erase what happens. ticking time bomb. do not
hire and do not allow near your loved ones.
http://www.silentlambs.org/ElderprotectPedophile.htm |
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| George |
Saturday, June 21, 2008 @ 2:14 PM |
Response. It seems like this site wants to expand its wings and
discuss other topics as well. Such as: "Murrieta Man
Questioned In Murder of His Mrs" or "Francis Proulx
charged with murder". These both are extreme cases not
involving child pedophilia. However, both cases are big
problems. Big problems that can be prevented, if they are
treated earlier. Pedophilia and murder are both condemned
in the Bible. Murder is obviously wrong. Child
pedophilia is fornication, unreasonableness, covetousness
all wrapped in one. The Watchtower keeping a file of all
these pedophiles is extremely egregious. Definately not a
christian thing to do. The Bible tells us to avoid such
people. The Murrieta man had other issues than killing
his wife. It seems the insurance policy of $1 million
dollars was definately in his heart. The greed of this
man took over his power of reason. The lifestyle that he
wanted to maintain was more important than his wife. The
Watchtower's lifestyle is one of "living with the
Joneses". These men want what the Watchtower
has...Money. Personally, I cannot wait for the November
issue of the Watchtower and see what these greedy men want
more of.
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| Stephanie |
Wednesday, June 18, 2008 @ 12:16 PM |
Sad state of affairs I used to be a Jehovah's Witness. I don't ever recall
being sexually abused but my heart goes out to those who
have been. I am congratulating you for having the
strength and insight and spirit to speak out against this
subject. Deciet has no place with truth. |
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| SD |
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 @ 4:57 PM |
God bless you for making a place that is safe for children! You are
reaching others for Christ! May God continue to bless you
all!
In Christ,
sd |
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Tuesday, June 17, 2008 @ 2:35 PM |
To Socrates and all Yes, there are other former JW sites to which people
can turn to discuss issues other than pedophilia.
Silentlambs is principally a site for discussing
the
pedophile issue, and I don't want to see anyone scared
away
from coming here because maybe some people may be coming
on
too strong about other issues. This is a wonderful site!
It is hard at times not to touch on other issues with the
WTBTS due to its general orneriness about so many things.
But, I know we need to try to stick to the horrendous
pedophilia problem and be here for the victims to comfort
them and give them support. So, please, people, keep
coming, and consider Silentlambs your haven! We are here
for you to offer solace and friendship. We care. You
mean
a lot to us. Keep coming back. |
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| man711 |
Monday, June 16, 2008 @ 2:30 PM |
"When a religion does wrong on American soil, the religion
should be in jeopardy of losing its religious status. "
Gee I think all of them fall into that category |
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Monday, June 16, 2008 @ 2:18 PM |
To Earl Hi, I really picked up on a word that you used.
Intiution. It jumped out at me. I agree that people
should not ignore their intuition. My mother used to
refer
to it as her antennae being up. It's like radar. You can
pick up on things and just know intuitively whether
something rings true or not. So many JWs let their minds
become like sponges that absorb everything the WTBTS tells
them, and they believe it all! But, who wants a sponge
for
a brain? I really think one can sense when something is
awry, and yes, I truly believe there is much that is awry
with the Jehovah's Witnesses' 'religion'. You just have
to
go with your "gut feelings" (pardon the expression :-))
sometimes. |
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| Socartes |
Sunday, June 15, 2008 @ 11:32 PM |
No one should be silenced, Guys, you are right, I agree that people need to talk
about their abuse, they need to get it out in the open and
talk about it, I was one, and I needed to talk about it.
But we need to keep in mind that there are people here who
are active witnesses on their way out, but if they see us
jw bashing or preaching, then we might scare them off.
When I can to this site the first time, had I seen someone
trying to convert people to their beliefs or bashing jws
then I would not have felt safe enough to stay on the
site. I came here to discuss my abuse issues, when I felt
like I wanted to hear other peoples beliefs about
religious doctrine, then I went to some of the many other
sites out there. I eventually stopped going to them
because I didn’t appreciate the debates and hateful
attitudes, so I came back hear and found that from time to
time we start heading in that direction here as well. I’m
just saying that we need to consider that. I'm not saying
that anyone should be silenced. People come here not to be
converted but to hear other people’s stories about abuse,
so they know they’re not alone. |
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| Earl |
Sunday, June 15, 2008 @ 10:33 AM |
George and all Good points, as many come here with abuse issues I
personally feel no one should be silenced who shares their
suffering,thoughts and experience. After all that is what
the WT is all about, silencing the members. It's all abuse
and it starts at the basis of their dogmatism. The child
or parent has been taught to ignore their God given
intuition and believe that the elders are infallible and
chosen by God himself. After such indoctrinations it is
easy to abuse the people, including sexual abuse and even
allows the mom to give up her role as main protector of
her children which even a animal would not do to their
young. I believe unless and until someone can see the
WTorg. is wrong on so many levels that they will not
change and join us in our fight to save the poor helpless
victims. In every jw heart of hearts they know that what
the Org. has taught them very often is contrary to the
Bible message that they so often study, they might not
discuss their feelings with another soul out of fear of
rejection but sooner or later they end up at a cross road
where they are challenged to do the right thing. It is
other people that share their beliefs and experiences that
often encourage people to change. We never know how we may
affect others but I am convinced it is our honesty and
sincerity that draws others to finally realise that maybe
there is real truth out there and helps one come out of
isolation and shame, maybe for the first time in their
life's and makes them comfortable enough to join mankind
and really make a difference by helping the abused instead
of waiting on God for divine intervention. This waiting
thing is another teaching that has allowed all forms of
abuse and it needs to be talked about as it it at the
center of jw beliefs and allows them to have a pacifistic
attitude about doing their part in stopping abuse. Does
anyone think Jesus would have viewed mass suffering/abuse
and said " You all just sit back and watch your kids being
abused as I will take care of it when I return" This is
insanity and that is why we must discuss doctrine as it is
false doctrine that allows the abuse of the Silent Lambs.
Blessing to all and keep up the vital work. |
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| George |
Saturday, June 14, 2008 @ 10:31 AM |
Thoughts I disagree with Socrates comments below. I feel that the
reason that the Watchtower Society has big problems (child
pedophilia, etc.) is because they do not deal with the
smaller issues involving themselves. Small problems
become larger problems. I find that most elders in the
congregation ABUSE their members on things that they feel
empowered to do further abuse (child abuse). I found that
a severe SLANDER case involved myself 800 miles south of
where I am currently living. I feel people who have been
wronged by the Watchtower Society need to have their
thoughts expressed in a forum. This will show the world
what the Watchtower society is like as a whole, not just
one area. Please do not silence our thoughts. |
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Saturday, June 14, 2008 @ 10:23 AM |
Post Question I posted on the Guestbook, June 12, and it never appeared
here. Can someone explain?
Moderator responce........................
No message was intentianlly left off. But there was one
day that we could not post, therefore it may have been
late getting posted. If it has still not been posted
please send it again. |
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| Korey |
Thursday, June 12, 2008 @ 7:53 PM |
They are so imperfect Is it any surprise that the Jehovah's Witnesses are
involved in a pedophile circus? Do we need a sign from
above to know that these people are not practicing what
the Bible preaches? Is it alright for a JW lady who
dresses like a slut to knock on your door? Does religious
freedom supercedes the other Bill of Rights? When a
religion does wrong on American soil, the religion should
be in jeopardy of losing its religious status. That is
what should happen. |
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Wednesday, June 11, 2008 @ 1:26 PM |
To Socrates and RF Hello. I just cannot comprehend how parents could
shun their own children for opening up to them about their
abuse! Even if they open up about as adults and still are
treated like dirt for doing so. I don't get it. Not one
iota. It's crazy. Where are these parents' heads? More
importantly, where are their HEARTS? It's baffling to the
nth degree! I am so sorry to all victims whose very own
parents who children should be able to count on above all
other people don't show them sympathy, empathy, and
compassion! It's nuts! So, Socrates, I am so sorry about
the way your own mother responded to you when you told her
what happened to you all those years ago! And, to think
that you told her after you'd reached adulthood. It seems
as if that would have added credibility to what you told
her. I am very sorry about her reaction to you and what
you told her! RF, I am proud of you, too, for telling
your
parents what happened to you when you were a little girl!
I am happy about the way your parents took care of the
situation. That's the way parents should act, the way
they
should be. I wish all children were brave enough to open
up to their parents about their abuse. It is always best
to be truthful. Honesty pays out in the end. Your
parents
protected you. I wish all the parents were as protective
as yours were! |
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Wednesday, June 11, 2008 @ 12:55 PM |
To Herbert Hi, Herbert, I agree that the main purpose of this
site is about pedophilia and that we should be careful to
stay on track. Yet sometimes avoiding dogma and doctrinal
issues is very difficult, because sometimes they are
enmeshed with the pedophile issue. I agree with everyone
who says there needs to be balance on this site.
Sometimes
to have that balance it is necessary to touch on JW dogma,
etc. The pedophile issue is definitely the main thing to
focus on, but at times, in order to have balance, people
need to bring in other issues with the WTBTS. Nobody
should feel intimidated by this organization for any
reason. I think that is an important thing to keep in
mind. Fear is a great controller and manipulator. No one
should be in fear of the WTBTS. It's not God, nor does it
represent God. Jesus Christ represents God. Nobody
else.
No one should be afraid to report child abuse to the
police. Indeed it is their duty to report it to the
police. It is their responsibility to do so. |
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| Socrates |
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 @ 9:20 PM |
RF victims protect abusers This is a very interesting conversation, I often wonder
about this very issue. My wife and I are helping a woman
right now who is in the process of divorcing her abusive
husband. But the entire time she has been completely
concerned with protecting his reputation. My sister has a
daughter who I think is possibly abused by her father but
she lives in denial thinking first that her daughter would
say something and second that her abusive ex would never
hurt their daughter. Why do people protect predators? I
think because to them it means that it was their fault
because they didn’t see it coming. I was molested by a
witness when I was eight years old. He would babysit us,
while I was there he would tell my brother and sister that
I was being bad so he could take me in the other room and
have his way with me. When mom arrived to pick me up she
saw that I had been crying, and took his word that I had
been misbehaving so within minutes of being molested, I
got yelled at and punished by my mother. Needless to say I
was afraid to tell her what really happened. This happened
multiple times with the same story but, although she had
experienced abuse herself growing up, she could not allow
herself to believe that it could ever happen to her
children. I told her about it last year and she
automatically took a defensive and doubtful stand. So I
think that is why because parents and/or victims can’t
stand to think that they somehow allowed it to happen. I’m
so proud for you RF that your parents stood for you, and
for your courage in telling them. You are right the truth
is always better. I waited 29 years to say anything about
it. I hid it away and my entire life suffered anxiety
attacks, nightmares, insomnia, seizures, and finally lost
my parents and sister by talking about what happened, and
standing on behalf of other victims of witness abuse. But
my life is now so much better. I’ve still not completely
healed but still working hard at it with my wonderful
supportive and helpful wife. |
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| RF |
Tuesday, June 10, 2008 @ 9:28 AM |
Enjoyed the comment to my comment In hearing the women tell me their abuse, some are told
after they grow up about it because they were to young.
They are angry when told because they know how they were
treated coldly by their mom's had do do with the abuse.
Where dad's were no oneone seems to know if they knew most
of the time. MAYBE THEIR MOTHER'S WERE ABUSED AND BECAME
NUMB. The whole situation is not normal. I had parent's
that did not get along , they did not agree on anything,
except they were normal concerning me. When I was 5 I went
futher from the house then I was suppose to with 2 boys 7,
12 yrs. old. I sensed I was in danger and started to run,
they tore my strap off of a sunsuit, but I out ran them. I
hid the suit and got in bed. I dreaded telling my parents
I was out of the yard and what happen, but I recognized
truth was better and when ask what happen told my mother.
She talked to my father . The next day they told me not to
worry my father had run the family off that night . They
told me I was safe from future harm, did not scold me for
being with the boy's or going out of the yard. They both
gave assurances and we never talked about it again. I
always valued how they were so protective of me. Abuse
victims don't usually have this protection. I feared
telling them but I feared it happening again more. Facing
fear is hard but it brings a life time of relief. |
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| Moderator |
Monday, June 9, 2008 @ 9:23 PM |
To Canada, Still a Witness for Now Canada,
If you would like further guidence regarding the
situation with your son, you can email.
info@silentlambs.org. |
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| Socrates |
Monday, June 9, 2008 @ 6:32 PM |
To Australia I understand how you feel when you say that you have no
spiritual home. I find happiness in knowing that no one
can tell me what I have to do spiritually. You have time
to figure that out on your own, without being told how you
have to do it. It is a personal relationship like that
with a wife or husband no one can tell you who you have to
love. |
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| Socrates |
Monday, June 9, 2008 @ 6:25 PM |
To Canada Canada
By all means you should report it. I doubt that anything
could be done legelly in regards to your son's case after
so many years, but there is a child out there somewhere
who could be this man's victim in the future if nothing is
said about it. |
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Monday, June 9, 2008 @ 1:41 PM |
To RF Hello, RF. Wow, your comments sure were on the
mark!
How could anyone blame a four-year old child for their own
abuse? Huh?! Especially the parents of this child. And
why is it that women are often so protective of their and/
or their children's abusers? That's crazy! Their
thinking
and ability is so totally confused and messed up. Here
they are worried about destroying the "wonderful" lives of
the abusers, but not taking care of their own lives.
These
women and their children deserve wonderful lives!! They
need to speak up! Turning all their pain and despair
inward can destroy them, ruin their lives. And all
because
they are so concerned about the lives of their or their
children's abusers! The abusers need to face the
consequences of their actions. I agree. "SPEAKING UP IS
HEALING!" That not speaking up is allowing a cancer to
grow and grow until it is too late. Yes, children are
adorable, loveable, and oh, so precious! To blame the
children or ignore what has happened to them is like going
into numb denial. How can anyone do that to their own
children?! How can someone prefer to save the lives of
the
abusers rather than the lives of their children? And yet
claim to love and cherish their children? I am so glad
that women feel they can confide in you! They need to
confide in someone! Someone who will help them see sense,
help them with their thinking their reasoning and
perception of things! Thank you for being there for these
women!! They have been spiritually poisoned. You are
helping them get the poison, the toxins out of their
sytems. Please keep it up! |
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Monday, June 9, 2008 @ 1:17 PM |
To Australia Hi. Please keep coming to Silentlambs. It will give
you comfort and solace, and that will help you stay
strong.
You will find much support here and friends who care
deeply
about you! Speaking only for myself, as that is all I can
do, I don't have a "religious" home. I don't have a
church
that I go to. However, (again, this is strictly speaking
for myself) I do feel that I have a spiritual home in
Jesus
Christ himself. I remember JWs who would ask where else
could they go if they were to leave the organization, when
all along it was truly a matter of to WHOM they would go,
so there IS someplace for hurting and confused JWs and
victims to turn to. Anyway, I know this is a very highly
personal issue for everyone. I just wanted to pass along
what has helped me. No, I don't have a religious 'home',
but I do have a spiritual investment in Jesus Christ our
Savior. The Jehovah's Witnesses don't have a monopoly in
spirituality. I want to reiterate that this is how I
personally see things from my perspective. Everyone has
their own personal perception of things. But, in the case
of children being abused (in any way), I don't think that
people should feel an obligation to be loyal to, to trust
in an 'organization' that claims to be the channel between
God and humankind. Jesus is that channel. Look what He
did for us. I dearly hope that I have not offended or
stepped on anyone's toes here. Australia, what happened
to
your son was nothing short of evil. Wicked. You do not
owe your allegiance to a so-called religion that has hurt
your son and you. Far, far, far from it. Please, please
keep coming back to Silentlambs to help you have your
inner
strength. I hope your son is doing well. |
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