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||Wednesday, June 30, 2010
@ 3:35 PM
This is a wonderful place for like people to meet and find
comfort. Thank you silent lambs for all you have done and
will do for innocent victims of abuse by the WTBS.
To the rest, my roommate recently killed himself as he
could no longer cope with the memories of the rape he
endured at the hands
of a circuit overseer as a young man. He didn't know about
Silentlambs in time, you do.
Here is your safe haven!!
I love you all and I am a survivor myself of the evil
empire of Jehovah's Witnesses. I have lost my family, all
my friends and anyone I ever knew to my disfellowshipping.
You are NOT alone!! My email is firstname.lastname@example.org
if any of you need to talk ever!!
||Tuesday, June 29, 2010
@ 11:08 PM
|Herbert von Deutschland
See, it's been 45 years since German third year in HS. Use
it or lose it. LOL. You made some good points. Their hinting
at being more than human is starting to get creepy. They
sound just like the Pharisees. "Worship us or die. Why?
Jehovah said so. Where in the Bible? We don't have to show
you, are you calling us liars?" The gentle and naive ones
wouldn't go that far. I'd say "Yes you are liars, show me
and if you can't, you're going to have a big problem." I've
been in touch with newspaper writers who had done interviews
at Bethel about policies and the elders flat out lied. I
found out and called the authors. They tried to contact the
original lying elder but then he wouldn't see them. They are
such weasels. If there are apostles and if they are watching
from Heaven or anywhere, I'm sure they are weeping for the
children and asking the nearest angel to borrow his sword
just for one day. The GB have no place to hide. They created
this monster, now let them care for it. M.A.N.
|Herbert from Germany
||Friday, June 18, 2010
@ 2:33 PM
|man 711 and M.A.N., re: apology
Hi, you'll never in your lives experience that the WT
leaders will apologize for their crimes in protecting
pedophiles. They consider themselves as semi-gods, and
gods never excuse. Half-gods? Yes, in their New World
Translation they denote Christ Jesus as "main mediator" at
four scriptures (Acts 3:15; 5:31; Hebr. 2:10; 12:2). "Main
mediator" implies that there are other mediators next to
Christ as well -- they themselves or, for that matter,
their 144,000, standing between God and man. We have a
saying in Germany: "Ich kann gar nicht so viel essen, wie
ich manchmal kotzen möchte." [I cannot eat as much as I
sometimes want to vomit.]
||Thursday, June 17, 2010
@ 6:48 AM
|M.A.N. and all of Silentlambs family
Just wanted everyone to know that although I have not
in a while, I promise all that I peruse the website as
as I can and enjoy the encouraging comfort offered to
victims. Please know that you are in my prayers. Peace
||Monday, June 14, 2010
@ 9:13 PM
To be honest, I don't think the WT or GB will EVER
apologize. They won't even do it a little bit in that
round-a-bout way they did in 1980 about being wrong about
1975. And even then, they blamed it on some vague JW's as
they hadn't ever mentioned 1975 ever. They ignored the
of building up all JW's world-wide. In 1980, they printed a
quote something like,"Some of the brothers read more into
the Scriptures than the verses were really saying." There
was another sentence or two but you can look it up. If they
took five years to apologize about a doctrine that no one
who was NOT a JW cared about, they won't EVER mention
something that entails thousands of crimes and each one
being covered up by the WT. They've denied there are
pedophiles for decades. They've said the few that have been
discovered have been expelled or punished. Yet many still
serve as elders. They just CANNOT admit all these crimes.
They would be sued out of existence. They don't have the
money that the Catholic Church has. But worse yet, they
demand that all JW's and the world view them as holy,
perfect, and better than ANY other religion. Admitting ANY
of these crimes would put them on the same level as the
Catholic Church or even lower since they lied about it for
so long and so blatantly. It's just not going to happen in
my opinion. M.A.N.
||Sunday, June 13, 2010
@ 1:03 PM
When will the the "faithful and discreet slave" publicly
appologize for child molestations? Even the Pope has done
this. Why do they refuse to acknowledge the issue? Why do
they refuse to change their policies?
||Wednesday, June 9, 2010
@ 8:19 PM
|Re: Raymond Franz
I just wanted to say again how much Ray will be missed,
especially by the thousands of people that
he helped. His books alone freed many thousands of people
from the fear and guilt that had been taught them and
upon them by the WT and the GB members, as well as the
various "writers" employed by the Jehovah's Witnesses cult.
His personality was well reflected in his books,
particularly "Crisis of Conscience". He was never negative
toward individuals, although many had slandered him, lied
about him in the WT publications, and violated the majority
of the teachings in the Bible. He used logic, kindness, and
clear and fair reasoning whenever he made a point
Bible teachings. He didn't put forth personal beliefs or
interpretations like the WT does. He always allowed the
Scriptures to speak for themselves. In my 60 years of life,
and 40 of those years being aware of the WT's teachings and
dealings with its members, I've learned that life holds
ironies. One very common irony was endured by Ray. That was
the fact that the majority of JW's believed Ray to be an
enemy of God for the past 30 years. Yet the reality was and
still is, that Raymond Franz was a champion FOR God and the
Bible. Although the WT now no doubt believes he has been
silenced, such will never be the case. His books will live
on, his courage will inspire others to continue to expose
religious cruelty and hypocrisy, and how he lived his life
will be an example that will endure forever. Now those of
who know the REAL "truth" can continue to help those
who have suffered much due to the WT's criminal policies.
still have much to do and as always, I thank Bill Bowen for
his work in keeping this site alive and urge all who can to
help by assisting financially, by warning others of the
pedophiles that this religion protects, and to always be
alert for opportunities to do the right thing in life, no
matter what the cost. My best to all. M.A.N. from Florida.
||Tuesday, June 8, 2010
@ 8:49 PM
I was a JW for many decades, but no longer.
Are there any statistics comparing the number of pedophilia
cases in other religions/denominations compared with
Understanding the comparison in no way diminishes the
unfolding tragedy inside the WT, or the suffering of the
victims, or the injustice that has been/is being committed
in the name of 'religion.'
||Saturday, June 5, 2010
@ 3:15 AM
Raymond and Cynthia will always been in our prayers. He was
the most humble man I ever had contact with.
I wrote this him to him August 27:
something terrible has happen to our family, our daughter
Mette's 21 year old daughter Jessica was killed in a car
accident yesterday, Wednesday. Mette asked me today if you
could help us with some guidance for the funeral service,
just a little talk. You are the only one who can help us
in this sad situation. We just sit and cry. Please help us.
Kind regards Ole Helle-Broe, Australia.
The same day, August 27, he send us this comforting letter:
Dear Ole and family,
We were very sorry to hear of the death of your
granddaughter, Jessica. I am sure it will take some time
you to adjust to the loss, and even more so on the part of
her mother. Gods Word recognizes the uncertainty of life
and the unpredictable circumstances that can occur, as
Ecclesiastes 9:11 says time and chance (unforeseen
occurrence) happen to all. Gods Son was himself moved to
tears on seeing the grieving of Lazarus sisters at the
of Lazarus death. (John 11:33-35)
Even as the greatest appreciation of water comes with being
very thirsty, and of food when being very hungry, or of
sleep when being extremely tired, so too one can appreciate
the crucial value and beauty of the resurrection hope, and
the strength it gives, most particularly when experiencing
the loss of a loved one, or when facing death oneself. The
Scriptural knowledge shared by you and your family that
death is comparable to sleep and that those sleeping in
death can be awakened from that sleep by Christs call
awakening them to return to life (John 5:25, 28, 29) aids
tremendously to give relief to sorrow, so that as
Christians we may not grieve as do others who have no
hope. (1 Thessalonians 4:13, 14) You have the hope of
seeing Jessica again and should feel even more motivated to
faithfulness in your service to God and his loving Son who
will make that possible.
I completed 88 years of life in May and Cynthia reaches
in August, so we both recognize that the time remaining for
us is not great. One thinks of the words of the psalmist,
Our years come to an end like a sigh. (Psalm 90:9, 10)
While our outer nature is wasting away, our inner nature
being renewed day by day, as we look not at what can be
seen but at what cannot be seen, not at the temporary, but
at the eternal, having entrusted ourselves to a faithful
Creator. (2 Corinthians 4:16-18; 1 Peter 4:19)
As regards a funeral service this is entirely a matter
personal choice. For myself, following my death I would
personally prefer not to have some formal service held in a
funeral parlor but would prefer that those of my friends
who are able and would care to, would come to our home to
meet with my wife and join together in comforting her,
recalling whatever pleasant association they had had with
me, and any experiences of worth and value that resulted
from this. But as I say, that is only my personal
preference and is not presented as something for others to
be guided by. Mettes wishes should be given priority and
she feels a regular funeral service is best then that is
what you should do. In that case, as family head you might
preside in discussing the wonderful hope God provides in
Word, and perhaps then give other family members the
opportunity to each make their personal expression. Again
these are only thoughts and whatever choice your family
makes is the one to be governed by.
We wish you Gods help now in reconstructing your life
this loss and I trust that your giving mutual support and
comforting one another will give added meaning to the daily
life of each of you.
Our sincere regards and sympathy, Ray and Cynthia
A part of this was used at our grand daughters funeral
Thanks Raymond, you was always there with an answer.
YOU WILL BE MISSED BY THOUSANDS.
|Herbert from Germany
||Thursday, June 3, 2010
@ 2:12 AM
|Everyone and Milena Joy
Dear Milena, I don't know either why Ray did not mention
severe child abuse in the WT organization in his work. But
Jim Penton does now. In his revised version of "Apocalypse
Delayed" [Endzeit ohne Ende] in German, which will soon be
published, there is a longer paragraph about the problem.
||Wednesday, June 2, 2010
@ 11:37 PM
|Raymond Franz has passed
For those of you who don't know, Ray was pronounced dead
at 1:37pm EST time today, 6/2/10.
Although it is too bad he died without having publicly
acknowledged the severe child abuse problem created &
maintained by WT policy, his book Crisis of Conscience
helped so many open their eyes to the other atrocities of
the WT society.
For whatever reasons, he was unwilling to publicly
acknowledge the child abuse issue. Maybe it was guilt over
his part in creating the two witness policy, or guilt over
other related issues that have yet to be made public.
So, as conflicted as I feel about him, I do appreciate
that his books helped many witnesses make the
bold, brave, sane decision to leave the WTBTS.
Ray will never be forgotten. He lives on.
||Wednesday, June 2, 2010
@ 4:53 PM
Herbert: I didn't know how well you knew him. I'm a part-
time author, and "Crisis of Conscience" is one of the most
logical and fair books I've ever read. He proves his
statements and never lowers himself to the level of the WT
writers. The WT makes any statements they want, twist the
Bible verses to TRY to prove their opinions, and DF anyone
who dares to question them. It's black and white. Ray's
honesty and integrity are beyond reproach.
||Tuesday, June 1, 2010
@ 7:49 PM
Very Sorry to hear about Ray Franz. His Books, along with
James Penton, James Kostelniuk, & others helped me in
seeing how brainwashed I was.
I have now left the Jws.
I knew J.Penton as a young man in Toronto Bethel while he
was doing reaserch, and James Kostelniuk in Vancouver.
Wherever you are God Bless you.
||Tuesday, June 1, 2010
@ 7:05 PM
|False Religion's End is Near!
I am so happy that people are coming together against this
abusive, controlling, manipulative organization. We cannot
stand by and let them continue to hurt our friends and
|Herbert from Germany
||Monday, May 31, 2010
@ 11:06 PM
|re: Ray Franz
Dear M.A.N., I'm still shaken for I lost a fatherlike
And I'm the translator of both his books in German. So we
a close connection. As some of you might still know I have
also quarrels with my family: My sister makes me
for the fact that she was sexually abused by her father
she was five. But how could I do anything at that time? I
just nine; we were both children -- and so vulnerable.
||Monday, May 31, 2010
@ 5:41 PM
|Re: Herbert (von Deutschland)
Herbert, wie geht's? I just asked Herbert how he was doing.
I am very sad to hear that about Ray Franz.
If it's true, the world has lost a brilliant man who kept
his integrity. I consider him to be about the only sane
man on the GB since that arrangement began. He always
insisted on letting the scriptures be their guide and NOT
past WT articles or the opinions of very old men who had
not lived normal lives in the real world. His books where
masterpieces of logic and truth with no malice toward
by the WT and its dogmatic pride. I've written many
in my life and Ray was an author of the highest caliber.
My best. M.A.N.
||Monday, May 31, 2010
@ 5:25 PM
First to SL: Your message caught my eye because SL is used
so often for Silent Lambs. I didn't know if you were Bill
a moderator, then I read your message. I will never stop
exposing these perverts. I was concerned about a few
personal things but have worked them out. I also have heart
disease and sometimes have good and bad times. I've been
in the computer field since the 1980's and have read
almost every book the WT ever printed.
So I can do the most good for victims using my knowledge of
the Internet and doing research. I also mention that I have
a BA in Psychology from time to time so new people will
know I do my best to understand the dynamics of child
abuse. The WT doesn't care about people. They care about
money, power, position, ego, and the "good name" they
believe they have with the world and the "approval" they
think they have with "Jehovah God". THEY HAVE NEITHER!!
Many people here in
Florida call the police when they start door to door and
they've been thrown out of many neighborhoods. When I see
them, I go to the next street and tell everyone I see. No
one in my little street of 20 houses will talk to them
because I shared my story with them about my daughter's
abuse because of their policies. I read one post a year
ago made by a JW servant who said he was going to kill the
next person who "defamed God's people". Saying things like
that here in Florida can get you arrested or shot. And
what kind of thing is that to say? Would Jesus talk that
way? We can all help. You can visit your local police and
tell them (bring proof found on this site) that known
pedophiles are in the neighborhood going door to door.
Print out and show the police the "murder letter" where
the GB tells the elders not to report a known murderer who
was associated with the congregation. And if possible,
despite the economy, maybe send a few dollars to Silent
Lambs. Every little bit helps. Bill Bowen broke his leg
less than a month ago and I'm sure he has his hands full
keeping everything going. My best to all. M.A.N.
|Herbert from Germany
||Monday, May 31, 2010
@ 6:30 AM
|Sad news regarding Ray Franz
Dear friends, I have sad news to announce. Today, Monday at
4:22 AM German Time (that is Sunday, 10:22 PM your (Central
American) time) I got an email from Jim Penton in Canada.
Dear Herbert, I have bad news to report. Ray Franz fell
down, and hit his head this morning. He evidently had a
stroke. He is brain dead and will probably be taken off
life support shortly. So in all intents he is dead. We
will all miss him terribly. Notify the friends and pray
for his wife who is not well at all.
Blessings in Christ, Jim
||Monday, May 24, 2010
@ 10:23 AM
I have been reading the articles and clicked on this
guestbook and am in shock by all of this! How can this be
happening! A victim is a victim! How can they try to hide
this! MAN keep up with comments and we need to step up on
fighting for these victims who are being kept silent by
fear--by the elders!
||Thursday, May 20, 2010
@ 4:03 PM
|To BO and Sydney P.
Jesus wouldn't even condemn a prostitute, yet the elders
want to regulate the sex lives of adult JW's. Perhaps if
they concentrated more on the perverted sex lives of the
thousands of pedophiles they hide and protect, we'd all be
safer. The average JW might be okay, but the elders and
those above them are skanks. They break every rule in the
Bible and then condemn the world for doing the very same
thing. I've never seen such hypocrisy in my life. Jesus
would throw up if he was here today and they gathered
him thanking him for the "blessing of being his people".
sure he'll say, "Get away from me, you workers of
lawlessness! I never knew you!!" Sound familiar?? Does to
me. Sydney, you are correct to go public. Tell the
authorities that the elders intervened. Obstructing justice
is a crime. I know if I find a pedophile, he won't be
allowed to "go home". We can do forms of citizen's arrests
here and I'd do that one in a heartbeat. To WT lurkers: Are
you proud of yourselves? You think this is Christian? You
often laugh that you've outwitted the world. Soon you won't
be here anymore. Guess who laughs last?? That's right,
who did the right thing, and NOT JW's. I wouldn't want to
live one day in a world with you lying weasels.
||Monday, May 10, 2010
@ 1:32 PM
|Glad I left the JW's..
Thanks all of you for posting all this information. I
knew something was not right when we were studying with
the Witnesses in Fremont, CA during the early 90's. An
elder came to our house with the husband from our study
team - Tony Hansen. Tony went off into another room with
my husband and the elder (can't remember his name) asked
me about our private sex life
and if we had oral or anal sex or not. I was
flabbergasted. My husband thought I was nuts throwing
them out of the house. I guess people don't usually tell
the elders to get the F*** out the house. The elder fell
off his roof a week or so later and I remember thinking
that karma worked. I had already been ready to call it
quits with them because they wanted me to start hitting my
2 year old when she wouldn't sit still all day Saturday &
Sunday and I wasn't allowed to sit in the lovely furnished
nursery that had the sermon piped in "just to allow her to
manipulate me". The questions about our sex life did it
for me and after reading your site, boy am I glad I did
what I did. Bless you all and hope you all heal fully.
||Friday, May 7, 2010
@ 4:47 PM
|it never ends
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this site. I
have been reading here for a few months and I first came
here to read so I could find out if I'm alone or not. I
have been fighting for years to get my local elders and
the WT HQ to listen to me regarding horrific rape and
abuse I endured my entire childhood. I even broke
the "rules" and went to the police. There is an
outstanding warrant for my abuser, should he return to the
state where the abuse happened but the small town we lived
in cannot afford extradition. I had the chance a year ago
to see him arrested as he returned, but the elders got to
him first and told him to go home so he could avoid
arrest. I wish I could say more. I've felt so betrayed
all my life. My abuser, despite overwhelming proof, is an
elder and a pioneer in his home congregation. I know he's
still hurting others. He was too violent and sadistic to
just quit. But WT won't listen to me. Now, I'm about to
be disfellowshipped for speaking up and bringing it into
the public eye.
All I can say right now is thank you to those who've kept
this site running and thank you to everyone who shares
their stories. It helps me get through another day.
||Thursday, May 6, 2010
@ 1:18 PM
Again, my advice is to contact a lawyer and definitely
the police. The name Kimberly Norris sounds familiar, she
may be the lawyer who helped abuse victims for free.
you visit both the police and a lawyer, try to have all
details in order and written down so that they can study
your case quickly and can let you know what can be done. I
am not surprised that they ignored your deadline and
ultimatum. The WT thinks it owns the Earth so they will
never allow a "puny non-anointed human" and especially a
woman, to tell them what to do. There are only TWO things
the WT understands in cases like this. FORCE and MONEY.
When they are sued, you'll get their attention. And if any
are put in prison, they will suffer. Pedophiles often
become victims of the
very crimes that they committed against innocent children.
I find it very odd and twisted that a jail filled with
violent men will object to pedophilia with far more
than the Watchtower leaders will. Considering that the
arrogantly claim to be god's ONLY approved people on
it appalls me that they could EVER say that with a
face. But, they DO! It's like Adolph Hitler claiming to be
the kindest leader who ever lived. In addition to telling
the police and a lawyer, you might want to ask the lawyer
and police how soon you can **call the local newspaper.**
be surprised at how well that works. The WT HATES that
of publicity. They will try to put a "spin" on it and say
the world is run by Satan but we all know better. They've
already paid victims millions of dollars in compensation.
They cannot afford to do that for every victim. Everyone
fears them it seems. Well, the WT is selling off its
property in NYC and letting people go. That doesn't sound
like they are growing, does it? Please don't let them
Any victims can get a restraining order. If the pedophile
violates it, he'll be in jail very quickly.
Tell the police if there is any
intimidating behavior from any pedophile. I hope things
work out for you. M.A.N.
||Monday, May 3, 2010
@ 10:57 AM
If you are a victim of child sexual abuse which occurred
in the context of a JW congregation, and would like to
know if you have a legally viable remedy (i.e. a lawsuit),
see www.lovenorris.com, or contact Kimberlee Norris at
||Wednesday, April 28, 2010
@ 11:43 AM
|What can I do?
Its been more than 15 years since I left the Org. And
more than that since I was abused. I recently gave my
family and the Organization one month to right this wrong
themselves, therefor making them look like the good guys
who care enough to take care of the congregation. The
month is up on Friday. And I am ready to take action
myself but I don't know what to do or where to go to get
the ball rolling. This I figured was the one place that I
might be able to find some advice on making it happen.