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||Monday, October 26, 2009
@ 3:28 PM
|Hi to all
Someone asked how I found out about my daughters wedding.
I still have many sources and contacts in NJ and in many
countries. A friend who quit the JWs told me she was
dating someone and they were getting married. I verified it
and there was information on the Internet as well. I
appreciate your concern for my feelings. Relationships are
one thing in that a JW can change and contact a family
member later in life. But weddings only happen once. I
wasnt even sent a picture of my daughter posing with the
groom, whom I have known since he was a little boy. Someone
is sending me videos and pictures. It is basically true
that people who are looking for the meaning of life
and/or are from dysfunctional backgrounds or families are
vulnerable to the WTs arrangements. Thats why it is
imperative that people always think for themselves, that
they verify everything they are told, and that they
exercise good judgment. Intelligence is usually not the
reason involved when joining this type of organization. It
can be emotional needs or psychological problems. Im sure
most people who were once JWs consider themselves to be
intelligent. But logic and reason do not always win out
when decisions are made. I cant really say why some
parents quit and others remain. Often its what I just said
before. People have 30 or 40 years invested in the WT, it
is difficult to let that go, to say you were wrong, to
start over, and many other excuses. All I can do is to hope
certain people see the light someday. When families are
broken apart, the possibility always exists that parents
never see their children again and also may never see their
grandchildren. It is the price many of us have to pay
because we did the right thing.
To NC: Thank you for your comments. It does hurt and
nothing can prepare you. You hold that child in your arms
the day she is born. They love you so much when they are
toddlers and young children. Then 20 years later, they
refuse to let you see them marry the man they love. I will
never be able to understand the reasoning behind doing this
to a parent. I did not leave quietly yet I am not DFd as
far as I know. Yes, young people do change their minds and
that is all I can hope for at this time.
To P.C.W.: Thank you as well for your thoughts. I will
always be available to her and she knows that. Often it
happens that people her age realize how others used them
after they have children of their own. I will do my best to
continue to support Silent Lambs.
To Earl: The love that the JWs display is conditional.
You must earn it by obeying them in all things. This is
not what the Bible teaches. This alone is one indication
that the WT is not the truth and it also shows the dangers
of any religion taking the position that they alone own
God. I know this is one factor in the rate of mental
illness among JWs in much larger percentages than in the
population in general. This is truly sad. Your observation
as to how many JW children remain in this cult after they
reach adulthood is very revealing. They do have the largest
percentage of children who quit their birth
religion than any other that I know of.
I hope everyone is doing well and is encouraged by the
material here on this site. My best to all. M.A.N.
||Friday, October 23, 2009
@ 7:02 PM
|Silent Lambs & A Broken Doll
... so very true - keep up the excellent work!
||Sunday, October 18, 2009
@ 5:21 PM
Why doesn't Silent Lambs take the Watchtower on at their own
game, by printing millions of tracts , exposing them, and
seeing if they are willing to take you to court.
Either way it will warn people or at least damage that
dreadful religion. Good luck with what you do.
||Monday, October 5, 2009
@ 3:49 PM
Sixty percent?! Wow, that's good news! I hope that
soon it will be a much
higher percentage of youth leaving the 'religion'. I have
nephews in there who I'd love to see get out!!
||Friday, October 2, 2009
@ 12:27 PM
|M.A.N. and all
So sorry to hear that the unloving works continue from the
jw's. They are a mean spirited bunch when you are not one
of them. As I have said before , I too was cast off by my
own sister and called an apostate and haven't heard from
her in a couple of years. This is the only group I know of
that separates family like this. I hope your daughter will
come around and see the light soon. I have seen estimates
that about 60% of the youth end up leaving the cult. Anyway
keep up the good work. Blessings
||Wednesday, September 30, 2009
@ 4:25 PM
I wish to help expose those who abuse & practice
bigotry, coercion by fear, & the
many child raping co-conspirators,active
in our neighborhoods.......worldwide.
Let me know how I can help.
||Wednesday, September 30, 2009
@ 2:36 PM
Thank goodness for that old-fashioned elder for
standing up for you and
your husband and saying you didn't do anything wrong! Boy,
isn't that the truth!
I'm so glad your daughter and son-in-law eventually left,
too, and I hope your
son and daughter-in-law will soon do the same. If they are
treating you pretty
well, maybe it's only a matter of time. People being
labeled apostates for calling
the WTBTS on pedophilia is just plain crazy! It makes you
wonder how a religion
like this can survive, what with its twisted and mean
thinking. Good for you and
your husband, and your daughter and son-in-law getting out.
And good for
the old-fashioned elder who has sense!
||Monday, September 28, 2009
@ 11:53 AM
|Hello to All - September 16, 2009
M.A.N. You do realize that how you found out about your
daughter's wedding was an intended "slap in the face",
right? Her life is being controlled, even
with her marriage, sad to say. However, as one post says,
she'll find you one day, when that light bulb clicks in her
head. Right now, with her being being influenced
by all, she probably feels guilty about even thinking about
you but I assure you, there will come the time when she will
find you and I hope your son-in-law will love her, help her
and stand up as a strong husband and real man. Stay strong
because we need you.
||Sunday, September 27, 2009
@ 6:44 AM
I just want to thank you for your site, and the work you
are doing in highlighting some of the horrible things that
happen to women and children, I wish you luck in bring a
little justice to the world.
||Thursday, September 24, 2009
@ 5:44 AM
So sorry that this has happened to you. Yes, how absolutely
cruel to not tell you about your own daughter's wedding.
Surely, some who were invited were questioning where you
were. Really, they are the ones with no natural affection.
My husband and I left in 2003 after the pedophile problem
surfaced in Australia. The total lack of information from
the Society about it made me feel sick to my stomach. After
I saw the video of the march in New York on this website
made me make up my mind just what to do.
We left quietly, trying to inform those we thought would
listen. Of course, they didn't. I was labeled an apostate.
For some reason, I was not disfellowshipped. Apparently, one
old-fashioned elder said that what I did, could not be
considered apostasy because it was the truth. Our
daughter and her husband left eventually too. Our son and
daughter in law are still a part of it. They treat us better
than they used to now. I hope that they eventually give it
the flick too as I don't want my grandchildren growing up
with that warped frame of mind in their life.
I genuinely feel for you, but don't give up on your beloved
daughter. She may one day feel quite differently and you
never know what went on about you being invited or not. I am
sure that there is a place in her heart that belongs only to
you. She might come looking for you one day, you never know.
I am grateful to Silentlambs for freely giving out
important information in a courageous way and of course Bill
Bowen for his incredible stand too.
||Wednesday, September 23, 2009
@ 1:32 PM
How did you find out about your daughter's wedding?
I'm so sorry you
weren't notified, that you couldn't be at your own child's
wedding! I'd say this
religion is for the birds, but I like and respect birds.
This religion is geared
toward easily impressionable people, easily misled people,
people. How can people with reasonable intelligence fall
for what this
religion teaches and get hooked into it, and furthermore
stay hooked into it?!
I don't understand why your wife stayed hooked after what
happened to her
daughter. It's a real and very, very, very deep mystery why
want to pull out at the earliest opportunity if their
children have been
victimized by pedophiles! I'm very sorry about your
daughter. You should
have been invited to her wedding - - you should have been
||Wednesday, September 16, 2009
@ 1:06 PM
|Hello to All
I would have posted sooner but Im still dealing with some
health issues and family arrangements. I dont want anyone
to worry. I dont think Im due to have a major heart attack
or diabetic stroke anytime now. Its mostly minor things
that need to be monitored and they limit my energy and time.
As many of you know, I have extensive contacts and sources
in many states, especially New Jersey and the NYC area,
having lived there for 55 years. Most of you know that Im
on this site because my only child was molested by a known
pedophile. I exposed some of the elders and my wife left me
and took my daughter. I dont know if Im DFd or not and I
couldnt care less. This might be a lesson or example for
those of you who are debating whether or not to leave the WT
and if you should wait to be DFd or if you should DA
yourself first. I cant state that one method is better than
the other. Circumstances always are unique and there are
benefits sometimes to being DFd and sometimes youll do
better to DA yourself. Its a personal decision and I never
suggest one over the other.
Ive tried for years now to offer general psychological
advice to those who needed it or asked for information.
Again, I have to stress that I cannot counsel anyone on an
individual basis due to legal reasons. I can say that many
lawyers and therapists are well aware of the WTs criminal
and perverted actions are would be able to assist you.
Ive made many friends here and I hope to continue to read
and post when I can. I think now would be a good time to
make it known that my daughter got married the last week of
June 2009. I was NOT told nor was I invited. As of now, I
still have not received any pictures of the wedding. This is
one of the ultimate cruelties that the WT greatly enjoys
inflicting upon those who dare to challenge their authority,
beliefs, and actions. I would think that by now they would
realize that not seeing my daughter get married nor ever
seeing my grandchildren will NOT make me stop exposing them.
I cannot think of anything crueler that a family member
could do to another. Yet this shunning is highly approved by
the WT and also by my ex-wife. Ive seen this done before
and then when the father gives up trying to have a
relationship with his children and/or disinherits them, the
JW wife and children call him names and accuse him of
shirking his duty to them. I found one persons answer very
ironic when he said, You threw me out of your life and said
Jehovah God would take care of you. Now you are all in
financial trouble and I have a very good job. Ask Jehovah to
give you money. Im not advocating any particular actions
toward those who remain JWs, either good or bad. Those are
That being said, I wanted to say hi to AK-Jeff, its been
awhile. I hope things are going okay for you and everyone
else. As Jeff said, Silent Lambs is one of the best sites to
visit for all JWs who question the WTs criminal conduct.
Technically, proving the WT has lied about its history and
actions should be enough to make any honest-hearted person
quit this cult. But if thats not enough, then the child
abuse issue should be more than enough. I hope you JW
lurkers realize the meaning of the verses that clearly state
that if you are part of a religion that offends God that you
will die. Forever. Sincerity will NOT save you. You all told
the world that it would not save THEM, so why should it save
YOU?? The WT has a very long history of wanting to have
things both ways. To have their cake and eat it too. Sorry,
but it doesnt work that way. With the judgment that you
are judging, you will be judged. Remember?
I also hope you are doing well, Earl. I dont know some of
the new people but Bill Bowen, who started this site, is
very knowledgeable and has posted an abundance of helpful
information. Im sure youll benefit from it.
My best to all and Ill try to stay in touch. M.A.N. from
||Monday, September 14, 2009
@ 7:55 AM
|THE monstrous stepdad of Baby P has become a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS in jail
||Thursday, September 10, 2009
@ 3:37 PM
How often are abused women told by the elders to go
home and be better
wives?! Are the elders telling men to go home and be better
husbands? It works both ways, although there is NO excuse
for men abusing
their wives. Period. It's just more nonsense about the
system in this cult, which
victimizes women and children. It is so goofy and mean I
can't stand it! How
can the elders do this to women? Again, where are their
HEADS and their
||Friday, September 4, 2009
@ 4:25 PM
One thing I don't understand about how the elders treat
women and children
who have been abused is that the elders must be blind and
deaf to not realize
how women and children SHOULD be treated. It's so obvious
to me. The elders
either don't know about or care about chivalry. It is so
apparent that women
and children should be treated with great respect and
gentleness. Where are
the elders' heads? Not to mention their hearts? I just
don't GET it. It absolutely makes no sense, and it
makes me as mad as a herd of hornets!!! I want to shake the
whole lot of them!
Give them some sense, already!
||Wednesday, September 2, 2009
@ 4:12 PM
You left the JWs when you were eleven?! Wow, I'm
impressed that at such
a young age you were so insightful. I don't think of
Jehovah's Witnesses as being lunatics,
but I sure think they are very impressionable and taken in
very easily. Now I
think that's so sad, because once they're hooked in they are
very hard to talk
to and to reason with. Yet at the age of eleven you saw
through it all and got
out while the gettin' was good! Were you baptized by that
age? How did the
elders and the congregation treat you? I'm so very sorry
about your mother
being molested and then treated like a criminal for coming
forward! What is it
with the elders?! I can't believe that your niece
was returned home
after going to the police! Sometimes I don't understand
them either! But
the elders are the worst. Treating victims
like criminals - -
that's beyond stupid, and it's cruel, yet the elders claim
to be Christians.
||Tuesday, September 1, 2009
@ 9:23 PM
|JW on trial for killing wife...
||Saturday, August 29, 2009
@ 10:42 AM
My mom was molested as a youngster by an immediate family
member and high-standing man in the congregation. I left the
org at 11 because they clearly are lunatics. I always
wondered what happened to the cousin who molested my mom,
because I know that
they simply moved him to another place. Course my mother
was treated like a criminal by the elders for having come
forward. Now my niece, a beautiful 14 year old is being
molested, and she ran away to the police, who simply
returned her to the home. I don't know how of why this is
happening, I can't get into contact with my cousin.
||Wednesday, August 26, 2009
@ 1:59 PM
I agree with you about Jehovah's Witnesses, that, in
general, they aren't really
aware of what is going on with the pedophile issue. I know
my sister isn't.
She thinks pedophilia is rare among JWs. It's hard to get
across to Jehovah;s
Witnesses how grave the situation really is. It's truly
like the information "goes
in one ear and out the other", because they just can't begin
to believe, to accept,
how serious the issue is and how rampant it is. To them, it
is probably just
"apostate" gossip. How sadly wrong they are. If only they
would wake up!
||Monday, August 24, 2009
@ 6:06 PM
I have not been around in a while and wanted to check in.
Let me first say my heart goes out to all of you who have
been through so much. The stories give me chills as I
recall some of my abuse as a child. The good news is we
can heal and lead a happy life. I separated completely
from the jw's about three years ago although I was never a
baptized witness I was brought up in that cult and like
most jw's was told for years that only we would be saved
and the rest of the world was wrong. I walked around all my
life feeling guilty and believed I could never do enough
to be saved. Then I learned that was all untrue and a
tactic the Org. uses to keep us humble and always striving
but never sure of our salvation. My salvation was given to
me as a gift, something one can not earn. I was able
to research the Org when I got my PC. All the false
doctrine and prophecy, and then I discovered Silent Lambs
and it was a prayer answered as many feel that there is no
where to go when they contemplate leaving the Org. It is
scary for so many that they need guidance to move on and
finally find truth and spirituality.I never realized the
power of a cult to blind a person and keep them in line
until I left completely and the fear was finally relieved.
I had prayed that I find comfort as my own sister Marked
me as they say, cut me off from all communication after I
told her about the abuse stories on SL's. She called me an
apostate etc. and refused to believe these stories here at
SL even after reading them herself. There are thousands of
jw's on line with similar stories who were able to break
away and find peace, safety and a believing support system.
This is what I wish for all of us here. I continue to
expose the evil works of this Org. Through my research and
questioning other jw's I have concluded the two witness
rule is still in effect and nothing has substantially
changed in the congregations to protect the Silent Lambs
even though my jw brother told me their elder told him
they now report all abuse and do not let the pedophiles go
door to door. I soon discovered this is not true at all as
no one else has heard of a change like that.. I think they
just told him that to keep him quiet as he was asking them
questions about their policy. They still protect the Org.
before they protect the children. It's all about silencing
us and their rules in place prove that they have not that
love for one another that Jesus said we would see in true
Christians. I encourage all to report any abuse you know
of to the police, and those on the fringe, believe me when
I say there are alternatives to find God and truth if that
is what you want, even if it means just studying your own
Bible by yourself for a while until you find a loving
group. I guarantee without the Watchtower to tell you
what to think you will soon see clearly they have a very
foreign false doctrine according to the Bible. I found
such freedom that I never thought was possible. Keep up
the good works and thanks all for sharing your stories as
they help me heal. Blessings
||Saturday, August 22, 2009
@ 3:59 AM
|Thank you for
I JUST WANTED TO SAY A BIG THANK YOU TO "SICK" MESSAGE ON
THE JULY 15 2009 1.12PM.
YOUR WORDS WERE VERY KIND AND I FELT VERY SUPPORTED BY
WHAT YOU WROTE.
I AM SO HAPPY THAT I HAVE MY LIFE BACK.
I WILL MAKE SURE I ENJOY IT TO THE FULL AND USE THE REST
OF MY LIFE WISELY. NOT FORGETTING TO GIVE A HELPING HAND
TO OTHERS WHEN NEED.
GOOD KARMA TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY !!
||Friday, August 21, 2009
@ 10:05 AM
| misc comment
I decided to take a look again on this site to see what is
new, if anything. My heart is still so broken to know that
the org. I trusted all my life has abused the trust of all
of us, and has harmed so many, no matter what the intention
was. Their actions have split my family so badly that I can
only trust in God to heal the wounds. I can't seem to leave,
and I can't be involved whole-heartedly as I always was
before. The problem is that most JW's are truly not aware of
these issues at all; and if they ever hear anything, they
will not look further into the question.
|AK - Jeff
||Thursday, August 20, 2009
@ 3:15 PM
|Just a 'Hello'
Hello all. I have not been over here to SL for a long time.
This was my first stop in my 'journey' of discovery
regarding the 'truth about the troof' which began about
five years ago.
I still maintain significant
anger over the JW blind-eyed views toward children
victimized by pedophiles.
I hope all are healing from the spiritual and physical
abuses suffered at the hands of these evil men who
perpetuate lies in favor of the criminals they hide.
||Thursday, August 13, 2009
@ 6:55 PM
Thank you all for your concern. I'm sorry for not having
posted sooner but have been very busy with some personal
and family issues. I will be posting a progress report in a
few weeks. I've been trying to keep up with the posts here
and as usual my deepest sympathy goes out to all of you who
have been harmed in any way by this cult. Again, my thanks
to Bill for all his hard work and to those who help with
this site. M.A.N.
||Thursday, August 6, 2009
@ 2:07 PM
Hello - - just wondering how you are doing. It will be
good to see your
intelligent and helpful, supportive posts return. Hope all
is well. Take care.