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charliej Tuesday, June 12, 2007
@ 4:49 PM
PCW Voting
You are very welcome

PCW Tuesday, June 12, 2007
@ 2:10 PM
That you for taking the time to reply. I will use your help and get back with you if I need to.

charliej Monday, June 11, 2007
@ 10:20 PM
Go to Search for Jehovah's witnesses voting November 1999 There you will actually find a copy of the article in one of the first few sites listed there. If that doesn’t help you let me know and I will help you further

PCW Monday, June 11, 2007
@ 12:54 PM
Thank you for your prompt response. The problem is, I do not have any more magazine literature, as in Watchtowers or Awakes, only hardback books. Is here some place on the internet where I can see it in writing for myself? Although I was disfellowshipped, there are some things I still don't do and voting is one.

g Monday, June 11, 2007
@ 12:31 AM
growing up in Jw's household
Interesting to read comments made by others, clearly this Is a cult, where your thoughts are controlled, as well as your every action.. I recently watched the program , knocking, a pbs special.. good program. although there are many things behind the real picture I am fully aware of.. often never spoke about,, without fear of repercussions and those of you who have been rebuked, we know what that's like.. it's a silent " hell" you never forget.. but being a person who thinks for themselves.. they will never stand for that type of individual thinking.. not acceptable.. or unforgiving, unless your willing to conform.. that I will never do.. regardless of family ties.. it's not worth giving up your life.. for what.. too be controlled by someone else.. no way can I ever do that. my best of to all of you who struggle to free yourself from the bounds of slavery.. and that's just what your are.. a slave to what.. a doctrine.. it's not me.. Shalom.

Earl Sunday, June 10, 2007
@ 8:41 PM
To Mt
Greetings , that is wonderful news. Keep us updated if you will and keep up the good work. Blessings

Jamie J Sunday, June 10, 2007
@ 4:35 PM
That is great exciting news MT!! I will look forward to hearing how it is going after you are up and running. Please keep us posted.

KGB Sunday, June 10, 2007
@ 8:57 AM
Jehovah's Witnesses are bigots
The names of the Governing Body NEED to be posted on this web site. They are as guilty as the pedophiles that they hire to run their churches (Kingdom Halls). When will people see that the Jehovah's Witnesses cover up their illegal activities and when will these men be brought to justice? The Governing Body needs to serve time in jail for crimes against humanity. God is not interested in their activities or these court cases would be in their favor.

mt Saturday, June 9, 2007
@ 7:08 AM
Hi everybody
Great news. Now the regulations are ready, so the papers can signed at soon as posible. I will be able to registrer next week. And then The Silenced Witnesses will be a reality. I am so exited. And I am looking forward to see the reactions here in Denmark. But mostly and hopefully, victims will seek for help. I link the home-site, as soon as it is running. That is my next big step from here. Hope you all are doing fine. Blessing from me to you, and have a nice weekend. Sincerely mt

Friday, June 8, 2007
@ 9:10 PM
PCW (Voting)
In regards to your question about voting, read November 1 1999 Watchtower Question from readers page 28 and 29.

Friday, June 8, 2007
@ 4:31 PM
To Bonnie Gal and all
There is this old saying I really like, and it makes me think of the Silentlambs website. It is: "Shared joys are double joys, and shared sorrows are half sorrows." I think it is so true and that by being here for each other we share in what each other is going through and experiencing. So, people are really here for each other! Bonnie, I hope you keep coming back for support and friendship. However, if, as Jamie mentioned, Silentlambs doesn't feel right for you, well, please know that we all wish you the best, now and always! Take good care, and please hang in there in your journey, your quest for happiness, joy, and peace. I know that after leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses religion, I can really breathe again. It does take time for the toxins to get worked out, but with patience and time and support from others they do get worked out of your system. I hope you'll come back to us. Again, please take care. Nurture yourself. Enjoy the small pleasures in life. They are so wonderful. Feel the beauty and wonder of nature, as that can be very healing. You are in our hearts as well as in our minds, and, believe me most people here have been in your shoes, know what your are going through, and want to be here for you.

PCW Friday, June 8, 2007
@ 12:53 PM
Hi, Is it true that Jehovah's Witnesses have been allowed to go to the polls and vote for the candidate of their choice since the Fall of '99? If so, I'd like to see that in writing. How can I find this out?

Jamie J Friday, June 8, 2007
@ 6:24 AM
I hope you enjoy your summer traveling. We will miss you and look forward to your return.

Jamie J Thursday, June 7, 2007
@ 5:33 PM
Bonnie Gal
I’m sorry if we gave you the wrong impression or misunderstood your comments on the guestbook. You seemed to be going through some of the same issues that I have recently and I thought I would let you know what I did in reference to those. I know for me that sometimes the guestbook did not always offer immediate help because it is not set up as a forum. So having a way to communicate with people that have been through the same issues or know where I am coming from through a more immediate route came in handy. You are the only one able to make decisions for you and you are the one that decides what is best for you. If you feel the guestbook is not the place for you to post right now, we understand. We are all different and maybe the things that helped me aren’t the things that will help you. But hopefully you will continue to visit and read and give it time to see what we are all about here. Maybe you will be able to get things to try and see that you aren’t alone. Whatever you decide to do, remember that you aren’t alone and we are here for you.

M.A.N. Thursday, June 7, 2007
@ 11:57 AM
To All
I will be traveling this summer to visit family and ultimately hope to move to another state. Due to this, I will not have Internet access and won't be posting for some time. I just wanted to post this so people don't worry about me. My best to all.

J Wednesday, June 6, 2007
@ 12:10 PM
To Bonnie Gal
If you go back and read charliej's past posts, I don't think he or his wife needs private talks. I think the offer was made, because you spoke of the guilt you feel. I've been out of the organization for 20 years, and because some of my relatives are still in but trying to fade away, I must be careful about what I say on this site in case a JW who knows my relatives reads what I post here. After having dealt with the deviousness of the WTB&TS, it is understandable that you are suspicious of those offering help, but please be assured that people who post on this site are interested only in supporting abuse victims. It has been a great source of comfort and confidence building for me and many others. Best wishes to you.

Wednesday, June 6, 2007
@ 11:54 AM
To Bonnie Gal
Hi - - I think that the person who offered to be a sounding board for you meant just that - - to be a sounding board. They just want to be there for you, to help in any way they can, to give you support. Please don't be offended. Sometimes people here need to talk and get things out, maybe on the phone as well as here on Silentlambs. Nobody here wants to put more on your plate. They understand that you feel overloaded, as it is. In fact, what they want to do is help take some of that load off your plate, to give you some relief. This person didn't offer time with you on the phone for himself. He offered it for you! Please understand. This person just wants to help you in your healing process, as he knows how difficult things can be for people when they get out of the JW religion. Please don't take it wrong. This person is offering to go the extra mile for you, in order to help you. Everyone here cares about you and wants to be here for you to give you support, solace, and relief. Nobody should have to carry around the baggage of guilt you are carrying around. You don't have anything to feel guilty about!! Please give us a chance here to be your friends and supporters. I can understand how, after being a JW, how easy it can be to read into someone's motives, but this person wants to help YOU, not for you to help HIM. Please give this site a chance. We care about you more than you can imagine and would miss you if you stopped posting here. Don't give up on us, please. Okay? :-)

silentlambs Wednesday, June 6, 2007
@ 11:42 AM
To Bonnie Gal and all concerned
We appreciate the interaction on the guest book and understand the caring comments and offers of assistance. For those reasons we urge a word of caution. Since the inception of silentlambs we have avoided the inclusion of email addresses to protect the privacy of the posters. If you need further assistance you are welcome to call the hotline that is its purpose. If you have someone that you need to contact personally on the guest book then you might email silentlambs, we will be glad to attempt to contact the poster privately to see if they wish to correspond. These guidelines are in place to protect the innocent and preserve the confidentiality of all concerned. If you have any questions about this you are welcome to contact silentlambs.

Bonnie Gal Wednesday, June 6, 2007
@ 8:45 AM
RE: Talk in Private?
What a strange offer for someone you don't even know. I have a counselor scheduled for later in the month, I thought chatting on the guest book was just fine. Do YOU need to talk to someone in private? I'm not a counselor and I've got enough on my plate. Geez is there anybody on this site that just wants to chat on the site with a newly self- outed person?

Jamie J Tuesday, June 5, 2007
@ 11:24 PM
Bonnie Gal
My husband and I stopped going to the meetings about a year and a half before we turned in out DA letters. I think I felt most of my guilt during that time, so that when I actually made the decision to turn in my DA letter I didn't feel so guilty about it. I actually have grown to love my Sunday morning sleep ins. I had a hard time and still do about telling people that I was once a JW and that I left it. I feel ashamed of the fact that I used to be one. I have noticed that when you do open up people ask questions and when we answer them they are totally shocked, especially when you talk about the 2 witness rule. I think that our close friends outside the organization have realized that we need time to settle and let our minds rest, that we need to talk and not be preached too. I think getting therapy is a great idea, that way you get to express yourself unconditionally. I was wondering if you have immediate family that is still in the organization and if so, how is that going? Fortunate for my husband and I, we came out at close to the same time. He did lose his relationship with his sister, aunt, and parents. I have a couple of siblings that are witnesses and my mother. I have told them via email but I have not heard from them since, but I don't think it is necessarily due to that. We have other issues. I have one sister that never was a witness that I am becoming much closer too. She has been a great support. You will find that there are many people outside the organization that will support you. Many of them are here on the site. Give it time, you will feel better!

Tuesday, June 5, 2007
@ 4:31 PM
To all
I apologize if I have ever come across as preachy here. I can see how that might be the case. This site is not about preaching and being preached to. It is about supporting and offering solace to victims of abuse - - and also to their families and friends. If I have gone about that the wrong way at times, I am so sorry. I don't want to scare anyone away! Like others here, I just want to be encouraging and comforting, and to be a friend to all who post here.

Tuesday, June 5, 2007
@ 4:23 PM
To Bonnie Gal
Hello, Bonnie, I'm so glad you have come to Silentlambs! Welcome! Believe me, this is not a "my way or the highway" site. Silentlambs is about supporting and befriending victims of abuse in the Jehovah's Witnesses religion. We are like family here! I hope you keep coming back for support and comfort. You are not alone in your feelings of guilt. You have been programmed in guilt by the WTBTS. It takes time to work through all the toxins left in your system by this cult! But, hang in there. You have done the right thing by leaving the JW religion, and eventually you will feel the relief you are seeking. It just doesn't happen overnight. You have had a lot of conditioning from the WTBTS. You were groomed to think a certain way, feel a certain way. Now you are on the path to become your own person! It is quite a journey you have begun, and at the end of it, you are going to feel so much better, so much healthier. The Jehovah's Witnesses are fed toxins by the WTBTS. You will get them out of your system. You will come out happier in the end. Most of us here have been where you are. Take good care, and do please hang in there!

charliej Tuesday, June 5, 2007
@ 11:23 AM
bonnie gal
Believe me we understand you feeling of guilt. As hard as it is try not to listen to that feeling. I dealt with that for about a year. Just keep talking about it, because it really helps. The most important thing to help you is support and you have plenty of it here. The guilt just comes from your years of being programmed to feel guilt. We are all here for you. If you would like to talk privately my wife (Jamie) and I will be glad to be a listening ear for you.

Bonnie Gal Tuesday, June 5, 2007
@ 9:32 AM
To Jamie
Thanks for the imput. I agree with you. I just want to not have to think. I feel guilty about every little thing I do like not going to meetings on Tuesday and Thursdays and not going in service on Saturdays, no meetings on Sunday. It's crazy!!!!!! Then people try to tell me i should go to their church and when I say no they try to explain why Jesus loves me blah!Blah! Blah! I couldn't get into counseling for a month. I even feel guilty about that. I thought I was suppose to feel better about leaving but I feel worse. But I can't go back because I know it's wrong. Anyway, hope you all are having a good day.

Maluenda Tuesday, June 5, 2007
@ 9:16 AM
To all
Well, what a surprise to be greeted with a rainbow of love this morning. We had a terrible storm and it knocked out our transformer, we were without power. The electric is fixed and back on. So if I'm not as available on the GB for a while please know that you are all in my hearts and on my mind every day and my love for you hasn't wained in the least. May the blessings of true friendship and love surround you always-Maluenda

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